Why vegans are wrong: 1) Our population is approaching 7 billion people. You can't feed them all with soybeans without converting All arable land into producing farmland. Is even that enough? 2) If it's not enough, what do you tell the starving masses while you're munching on bean curd? "Sorry, PAL, but we don't eat things with faces!" 3) No one should be a vegan without first sitting on a real honest-to-goodness plow and plowing a field. Look behind you, and marvel at all the chopped-up rabbit nests, mouse nests, lizard/snake body parts, etc. Speculate on the (thousands/millions) of small animals and insects dying for you. How big or human-like does a face need to be before you'll attach value to it? 4) Do you want to live in a world populated with humans, a small number of food plants, and rats? And nothing else? "Wait a minute, Evil Corporate Apologist," you say, "we can let a few billion peeps starve and keep areas like Yellowstone pristine!"
>Comments: the amount of crops and food it takes to feed the animals > that are brutally slaughtered every day is more than most > third world countries get a month. and thats just in the us > alone. Cows eat grass. People don't. Hmmm...If there's a mouse in a clump of grass that a cow then eats, was the mouse brutally slaughtered? > these thrid world countries could make better profit, and be > less starving if the amount of meat consumed in america would > drop. I'm sorry...profit from what? The food supply, like the money supply, isn't a limited pie that everyone gets a percentage of. Food and money are the sum of human labor and are UNLIMITED given ambition and work. No matter how much money Bill Gates has, it has no effect on anyone else's money supply. No matter how much of what I eat, it has no effect on the average Ethiopian. > > the amount of pollution caused from the raising, > transporting, slaughtering, processing, and packaging of > animals is far greater than the amount of pollution coming > from motor vehicles.Suck on a tractor pipe then tell me thPollution isn't the issue. Moderator sez: red herring! > > being a vegan is considered the healthiest way to eat. it > helps to prevent heart disease and stroke, arthritous, > diabetes, and obesity. the consuming of meat generally leads > to these health issues. We're finding that many of these diseases are genetic. As a fat guy, I know for a fact that obesity is caused by not putting the fork down. Or is it a conspiracy by Big Snack Food? Do Bush's cronies own Hostess stock? Smoking gun????? It seems like every time I see a centenarian on telly they mention cigars or bacon. Yeah, yeah...isolated incidents...luck of the draw...whatever. > > before you go saying your smarter, look into the real facts. > your an absolute idiot. You've changed my mind by attacking me personally! I see the error of my ways! Oh, THANK YOU!!
David, Thank you very much for your kind and considerate tone. The picture at the bottom of that page (http://www.krkosska.com/images/south-east- kansas-may-2005-39.gif) is in Butler county, Kansas. Much of the land there is hills and rocks; not farmable at all except on a subsistence level. The cows there eat grasses that are of no value to us, watered by rain that would otherwise be unusable to us. Taking those cows out of our food chain would wouldn't affect our other foods like soybeans, they would just be lost calories. (Yes, I'm taking out the final fattening-up at feedlots, which is a luxury we could do without.) While millions of people of dying of malnutrition every year, should we do that? > From: veganopolis@msn.com > To: kevinkrkosska@hotmail.com > Subject: Vegans aren't wrong > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:03:25 -0800 > > > Hi Kevin, > I own and operate a vegan restaurant in Portland Oregon and I would like to point > out that you are correct in your statement of the fact that we are approaching seven > billion "two-leggeds" on the surface of the planet, but you are incorrect when you > assert that in order to feed them all we would have to convert every available square > foot of ground into arable farmland. > The fact is that over 70% of soybeans raised in North America go directly into cattle > feed. That same amount of soy could be used directly as food for humans and would > not only feed us all, but have far less impact ecologically and atmospherically than > supporting the "protein middleman" Mr. Cow in the field. I do not hate Mr. Cow. As > a matter of fact I love Mr. Cow and wish that he and millions of his kind did not have > to wind up in dirty, horrifying slaughterhouses every day. > Secondly I would like to point out that ONE POUND of hamburger requires approxi- > mately 110 GALLONS of non-recoverable fresh water to produce from the birth of > the calf to it's flesh arriving at the grocery store. Soybeans, by contrast, require about > one / one hundredth that amount of non-recoverable fresh water. > Thirdly, the rainforests in South America are not being cut down to make toothpicks, > furniture, or chopsticks for Chinese Restaurants. They are being cut down to make > way for grazing cattle which the local farmers sell to the international marketers. > I am not a militant vegan and I will never tell anyone what to eat or how to think, > and I am fully conscious of my own, and every humans, fallibility. > I just feel that your facts do not support your conclusion that a vegan diet would > lead to environmental catastrophe.....quite the reverse I believe. > > Sincerely, > > David Stowell > Chef Veganopolis Cafeteria > Portland Oregon
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